I just want to make sure that my SSD has not been defragmented, so I would be grateful if you could answer these questions for me, since I am really concerned Not the answer you're looking for? Windows uses this kind of TRIM command by default, which is what most (but not all) modern SSDs support.See here for more detailed information: http://ru.belkasoft.com/en/ssd-2014SSBrainMonday, 08 December 2014 16:34:49 UTCWill TRIM Now they'll also do it to avoid defrag. http://fusionphp.net/windows-8-1/windows-8-1-this-app-wasn-39-t-installed-windows-is-getting-your-windows-8-1-upgrade-ready.html
I have several drives that are in various states of ill-health. This kind of fragmentation still happens on SSDs, even though their performance characteristics are very different. Ok, they just ensure the SSD defrag period is less than 28 days.But there's no word on the fragmentation level (you haven't discussed or disclosed it), so now it sounds like Scott HanselmanSaturday, 06 December 2014 05:02:18 UTC"To limit the peek resource usage..." Perhaps the person meant "peak"???DocSaturday, 06 December 2014 09:58:39 UTCScott, thanks for providing additional info you should've supplied in
Scott didn't dig deeper of figure anything out. Full stop. TRIM is a way for SSDs to mark data blocks as being not in use.
The OS is simply telling the SSD controller: I've sent you a bunch of mail, did you get it all? I dont want to hijack this thread and wont post the URL to my question but I also have several topics left without any feedback (for example about the inability of We've all been told that SSDs don't last forever and when they die, they just poof and die. They are offered in different versions, for example, as a pure Flash or hybrid plates, which combine traditional hard drive with a solid state memory and have several advantages over the
You can read more on this topic and our post titled - Do you need to defrag SSD? The OS deletes a file → marks LBAs as free → sends a TRIM command to the controller. This just confirms that "once a month" is an approximation. https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows8_1-performance/does-windows-81-prevents-ssd-from-being-defragged/a1bb99e2-5fbd-40c5-81af-208fd2aa5efa Type Defragment into the search box.
Then click on Disk Defragmenter. Defragmenting in Windows 7 Note: Do not use the defrag utility on an SSD type drive. Some people are fine with cheap/lower quality solutions, while some pursue the perfectness.RichardFriday, 02 January 2015 21:13:38 UTCScott, how about SSDs in USB 3 enclosures? Trnava Posts : 683 Win 8.1.1 Pro x64 You can use 3rd party defragmenter, which offers a better control over defragmentation, like: http://www.auslogics.com/en/software/disk-defrag https://www.piriform.com/defraggler My System Specs You need to have
Wow, that's awesome and dense. http://www.thewindowsclub.com/disk-defragmenter-windows TRIM every week or so should be sufficient.Where does "generally accepted" and "every week" come from? What happens if you defragment a Solid State Drive Posted by [email protected] on April 3, 2013 , in Category Windows with Tags Defrag, Features, SSD Anand Khanse is the Admin of Increase it to 2 months if my drive isnt overly used?Thanks for any help,ToddTodd Piatt Comments are closed.
Please read the first paragraph of the product team message and apply it to Windows 7 on SSD. http://fusionphp.net/windows-8-1/windows-8-1-boot-times-triple-that-of-windows-8.html If Scott doesn't know anything about technical details on this topic, perhaps, he shouldn't be posting false statements on other blogs without checking the facts as well as delivering incomplete info In particular, a lot of work was done to make various NTFS metadata files movable. Or they might turn-off System Restore to avoid any defrag operations on their SSDs.It's been my experience running Windows 8.1 that despite having intentionally turned off System Restore, Windows 8.1 automatically
As such, the NAND die never see the process.Robert YoungSaturday, 06 December 2014 21:06:04 UTCI'm even more confused now.I followed Vadim's instructions to disable defragging.So are you saying that Vadim is To my understanding defrag provides no value add on an SSD and so is disabled by default when the installer determines the disk is SSD. I was thinking it could be TRIM working, but I thought that was internal to the SSD and so the OS wouldn’t even see the IO. check my blog I have no idea about the specifics, but in an ideal world, it would tell you that your drive is reaching the threshold (e.g.
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In this scenario, where an SSD is present, the improved disk optimization tool sends ‘TRIM’ hints for the entire volume. Registry Defrag is Not Disk Defrag Most Raxco customers are familiar with the disk defragmentation our flagship software, PerfectDisk, provides. An example of this is when a previously saved file is modified causing the file to be larger in physical space. they can be written to at a byte level but need to erased at a block level.
Even with the heavy write loads I see, my projected lifespan is way over 10 years. There's a general rule of thumb or statement that "defragging an SSD is always a bad idea." I think we can agree we've all heard this before. I turned on the defragment service and analyzed the drive (38% fragmented) but didn't run it; my automatic scheduler for defrag is turned off... http://fusionphp.net/windows-8-1/windows-8-1-much-slower-search-than-windows-8-unfriendly.html It uses the Task Scheduler to automatically keep the hard disk defragmented.
I cannot explain why, but reading through this story and the partial snippets Scott glued together from that secret product group replies makes me feel there is some level of BS Open Disk Defragmenter Utility in Windows 7. I'm not sure what the limits are on modern Flash chips. The stats returned by ADM match those of other SMART tools I use.
While PerfectDisk provides faster disk access and Windows operation, the type of defrag your registry needs is an entirely different issue. While TRIM (retrim) is a separate concept from fragmentation, it is still handled by the Windows Storage Optimizer subsystem and the schedule is managed by the same UI from the User's Blog Latest Greatest Hits Dev Tool List Podcast Hanselminutes This Developer's Life Ratchet & The Geek Speaking Speaking/Videos Presentations Tips Books ASP.NET 4.5 ASP.NET MVC 4 Relationship Hacks © Copyright 2017, Does it matter?0Will Windows XP sense a drive is an SSD and thereby avoid defragging it even if the user tries to manually run defrag?2Should I defragment my SSD on Windows
Vadim's analysis has a lot going on. Myths are hard to kill...VadimVadim SterkinThursday, 04 December 2014 07:33:09 UTCHey Scott, Vadim,Glad to get some more detail on this subject. A bloated registry results in: slower boot time; slower system operation; and slower application performance. But this task has no visible triggers (XML shows that AM runs it), and there's no other defrag task with the monthly schedule.
However using the -b parameter, as mentioned below, will optimize the boot files. You will now see a progress indicator, the process can take anything from a few minutes to several hours to complete. The first step is to open the defragmenter utility. I have a few comments on your and developer statements regarding my blog post you mentioned but didn't link to.While Vadim's analysis has a lot going on, I believe the analysis